How should I deal with disrespectful students

How to deal with disrespectful behavior?

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    49
    federal state
    Bremen
    subjects
    German / English / history
    type of school
    Yes

    Good evening you
    I would be interested in how you deal with disrespectful behavior, sayings, hints.
    I currently have such a case that there are always people who just have to step out of line.
    Especially a person who is currently finding it particularly funny to just have to test their limits.
    For example, she writes some strange things on class work that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic, calls me by my first name, gives stupid answers, etc. but dragged it so long that the lessons were totally affected, and when asked to hurry up, only sayings like "Don't stress, boy" came up.
    This has NEVER been the case before, she has been doing it for 2 or 3 weeks.
    How would you proceed?
    Kind regards, Florian.

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    410
    federal state
    Hamburg
    subjects
    Eng, Ma, Sp,
    type of school
    Primary level

    How old is the student?

    To try: Well, if she thinks that she doesn't "want" to do it in practice, then there is definitely another way to work out the content.

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    49
    federal state
    Bremen
    subjects
    German / English / history
    type of school
    Yes

    You're right.
    She is 17.

  • So, without wanting to lean too far out of the window, because I cannot assess the girl, I would first talk to colleagues and then with her to find out what is going on (but have certain students of mine in mind) and make it clear in a friendly manner that it is slowly no longer acceptable And make it clear that if you can't get it back, the standard program threatens.

    When naming the first name, I have (had) such a student. I made it clear to him verbally that once testing whether the first name is correct (he was proud that he had found it out, or my middle name, which I never use), is just about manageable, but everything else is not acceptable. I take stupid answers, which are intentionally stupid, as an opportunity at the end of the lesson to point the person in question again about the allocation of grades and how the grade is achieved. This is not a threat but a mere factual situation. Works for me with the exception of two students - and they are pedagogical hardship cases, not just for me. When working, put a nice text underneath and have the whole class signed by the parents. It's difficult in your case, but she's 17.
    With a "no stress girl" (in my case) I would have dressed her down in front of the class and called parents. That's pretty much brushed for riot. May be advised that your school attendance is voluntary. (I'm just gymnastics) / edit: I assume that she could also start with an apprenticeship and a corresponding school.

    Quiet brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-Tip!

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    49
    federal state
    Bremen
    subjects
    German / English / history
    type of school
    Yes

    Oh, well then I'm not alone with this "problem".
    I also told her that I don't want her to call me by my first name.
    But she doesn't want to see what bothers me about it, after all I call her by her first name and not her last name.
    I also count their intentionally stupid answers heavily into the grade.
    I don't even remember exactly what she wrote under the work, it was some excerpt from a film or something like that.
    Of course, I asked her about it and told her that something like that wouldn't work.
    Is her life, her future, but still.

  • I would also speak to her plainly again. But definitely take your class teacher / tutor or something similar. Then you have reinforced your point of view and also have a witness. You can then also log that (in case she goes over everything later). I just have a case in a 9th grade. The student always denies everything that he does in "wrongdoing". With the class teacher there, he bends every now and then and admits his things. Then it's better for a while before it starts again.

    “Prejudice is a great time saver. You can form opinions without having to get the facts. ”E.B. White

  • Some pupils are depressingly stupid (not stupid!), Unfortunately happens again and again. * sigh *

    Well, luckily I didn't concentrate this kind of behavior in a summer semester, but a few really have something on the cake (in the absence of a more precise diagnosis, or as a totally educational collective term;))

    What did you say "exactly" to her? (As well as you can remember ... I couldn't say what I said to my "Duz friend" either)

    Quiet brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-Tip!

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    49
    federal state
    Bremen
    subjects
    German / English / history
    type of school
    Yes

    Oh yes, I keep thinking that too.

    What did I say when she used me?
    That was only recently, so I can still remember it quite well.

    From her came a "Hey, what's up, Florian?"
    At first I was completely amazed because I didn't expect something like that at all.
    Then I just said, for fun, not much so far, and with you, Shira?
    But when that started to pile up, I told her that I didn't want that, that she had to call me like everyone else.

  • The response seems perfectly appropriate.
    What kind of handling options are there? What type of school are you?
    If a senior high school graduate would try that, I would be flabbergasted at first and would then come up with the hint that going to school here is optional for them. But in the worst case they are demotivated and distracted and lazy, but they know the limits. (Haven't seen anything like that before)

    Quiet brain, or I'll stab you with a Q-Tip!

  • Contributions
    57
    federal state
    NRW
    subjects
    Philosophy / Sport / German
    type of school
    Examined student: Gym / Ges

    I would also speak to her plainly again. But definitely take your class teacher / tutor or something similar. Then you have reinforced your point of view and also have a witness. You can then also log that (in case she goes over everything later).

    I see similar.

    Another thought when you say that she has only been doing this for a few weeks: depending on how old you are, it may be that she has a crush on you and is looking for attention (tie her hair, etc.) -

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    49
    federal state
    Bremen
    subjects
    German / English / history
    type of school
    Yes

    I am at an IGS.
    You say something, unmotivated and lazy like anything else, right now, at such an important time.
    One of my colleagues also said to me whether it could be that Shira thinks I'm great because she does it, so seek attention and it is so urgent.
    But I tend not to think so, I tend to think that it is a phase.

  • I also think that the above-mentioned student fell in love with the teacher (FlorianR) and just wants to tease him in her own way.

    You are communicating with the future Minister of Education!

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    57
    federal state
    NRW
    subjects
    Philosophy / Sport / German
    type of school
    Examined student: Gym / Ges

    don't get weak, Flori, don't get weak

    By the way, my old rector also took a former student as a wife ... just an anecdote ...

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    49
    federal state
    Bremen
    subjects
    German / English / history
    type of school
    Yes

    In earnest ? How old was he and how old was she?

    Nene, I don't get weak

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    57
    federal state
    NRW
    subjects
    Philosophy / Sport / German
    type of school
    Examined student: Gym / Ges

    well, he was maybe 8 or 10 years older, they waited until she graduated and today there are already 2 sons

    edit: So they only got to know each other in high school ...